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[SOLVED] Clap doesn´t work

Posted: Aug 23rd, '16, 15:37
by Croodey
Hi, i only hear a verry low trigger signal on the Handclap. Changed the BA6110 - no results.
Q38 was damaged. I have changed this and now it overheat all BA6110 i put in. On Pin4 of BA6110 and both collector of 2sa798 are -15v.



Maybe someone can help me, or have some idea


Output signal
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Trig
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Noise
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Env
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ACC
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Q37 Emitter
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R234
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+/-15v are on the marked places ok

Re: Clap doesn´t work

Posted: Aug 24th, '16, 08:10
by beeb
Not an expert but this helped me : http://hardware.freepage.de/raf909/ under the circuit analysis section you can see what does what in the clap section (but I guess you probably know all this already)

Re: Clap doesn´t work

Posted: Aug 24th, '16, 10:19
by Croodey
Im not an expert too, but i know this page :)

Re: Clap doesn´t work

Posted: Aug 24th, '16, 15:46
by Croodey
now... every new BA6110 is verry fast grilled. Without the BA6110 the Q38 only have on one leg -15v. On the place of BA6110 i have -15v on point 5 and +15v on point 9.
Without the IC, there is no other place for the pins of it with -15v. If i put in a Ba6110, i have the -15v on pin4 again. I wouldn´t kill one more of it :(

I will take some measurements of all points on the place for BA6110 tomorrow.

Re: Clap doesn´t work

Posted: Aug 25th, '16, 15:36
by Croodey
duplicated post

Re: Clap doesn´t work

Posted: Aug 25th, '16, 15:38
by Croodey
Measurements of place of BA6110 without the IC:

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The transistor on q38 works well. is not defect. If i put in a BA6110, there is on Pin4 -15V and the 6110 is killed in the same time.
Please, can anyone make reference measurements (Without the BA6110 please)?

Thx!

Re: Clap doesn´t work

Posted: Aug 25th, '16, 17:41
by Altitude
does your noise work?

Re: Clap doesn´t work

Posted: Aug 25th, '16, 18:33
by Croodey
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my noise signal

Re: Clap doesn´t work

Posted: Aug 25th, '16, 20:35
by Altitude
That looks crazy low, where are you reading that? You should be probing pin 9 of the second 4006.

What does your snare sound like?

+ on pin 9 and - on pin 5 is how it's supposed to be

Re: Clap doesn´t work

Posted: Aug 25th, '16, 20:46
by Croodey
I read it on the point noise in the clap-part. I don't know how high it should be.
The snare works - only tone and snappy doesn't.