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Re: Mid Tom: low volume. Hi Tom: Overdriven/ distorted...
Posted: Jul 28th, '16, 18:40
by decoder303
so here are my measurements.
first measurement: low tom (blue) and mid tom (red) accent signal at IC114 (pin12 and pin13):
second measurement: accent signal after the OP amp at the accent testpoint, again low tom and mid tom:
third measurement: env 1 testpoint low tom (blue) mid tom (red):
fourth measurement: env2 testpoint low tom (blue) mid tom (red):
fifth meauserment: env3 testpoint low tom (blue) and mid tom (red).
and last measurement the low and mid tom at the outputs, I accidently swapped the probes, red is low tom here:
the osc signals have the same level on both the low and mid tom. To me it seems that the problem is already at the multiplexer? Might also be an option to change the gain of the op amp circuit of the mid tom?

Gonna give this a try later

Re: Mid Tom: low volume. Hi Tom: Overdriven/ distorted...
Posted: Jul 28th, '16, 18:47
by decoder303
FactoryDefault wrote:Has anyone tried playing the toms with midi? I did this last night and I'm pretty sure the levels were closer to being equal. The mid Tom still didn't have as much resonance to it as the other two but the level was higher than when being triggered by the internal Nava sequencer.
I did this with velocity 127 for all 3 toms. Maybe someone with the mid tom issue can try this and verify what I saw?
I can try this later, but have to check how I can sequence it with midi

Re: Mid Tom: low volume. Hi Tom: Overdriven/ distorted...
Posted: Jul 29th, '16, 16:56
by decoder303
I did all the measurements with the step buttons pressed 2 times. Today I measured again but with the step buttons just pressed 1 time and it seems that the mid tom accent just doesn't work. how can this be fixed? is this software related? no matter if I press the step buttons 1 or 2 times at the mid tom, the volume is the same, whereas the volume changes at low and high tom depending on 1 or 2 button presses. The fault has to be before the analog part...

Re: Mid Tom: low volume. Hi Tom: Overdriven/ distorted...
Posted: Jul 29th, '16, 17:02
by Data Jam
my hi tom is also to loud, but not overdriven etc. will check if the accents on all toms work next time i power it up.
Re: Mid Tom: low volume. Hi Tom: Overdriven/ distorted...
Posted: Aug 2nd, '16, 14:46
by beeb
decoder303 wrote:no matter if I press the step buttons 1 or 2 times at the mid tom, the volume is the same
My Mid tom doesn't have the same volume with or without accent, but in both cases they're quieter than their counterparts in low and hi tom. So we might have different issues here.
Re: Mid Tom: low volume. Hi Tom: Overdriven/ distorted...
Posted: Aug 3rd, '16, 12:01
by Data Jam
i checked it out, all my toms are louder with accent... so its just that either hitom is to loud, or mid to quiet...
Re: Mid Tom: low volume. Hi Tom: Overdriven/ distorted...
Posted: Aug 3rd, '16, 14:38
by decoder303
sorry guys, swapped the multiplexer and the accent works on mid tom, but its level is still too low compared to low and high tom.
Re: Mid Tom: low volume. Hi Tom: Overdriven/ distorted...
Posted: Aug 3rd, '16, 20:59
by beeb
Alright so we indeed have all the same issue
Re: Mid Tom: low volume. Hi Tom: Overdriven/ distorted...
Posted: Aug 4th, '16, 13:11
by peskado
Found error in Mid Tom
R124(10k in Nava) need change to 100K
Re: Mid Tom: low volume. Hi Tom: Overdriven/ distorted...
Posted: Aug 4th, '16, 13:41
by FactoryDefault
peskado wrote:Found error in Mid Tom
R124(10k in Nava) need change to 100K
Wow. Good eye!