Official Nava BUGS list

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Re: Official Nava BUGS list

Postby tb303 » Dec 12th, '17, 15:14

Some bugs I've experienced in Nava lately:

- if you are in "play" mode and have it looping over multiple patterns, and press "mute", the sequencer remains on the current pattern until you exit "mute" mode.
- sending MIDI triggers into the Nava seems to be completely unreliable. What I experience is, if I send a low velocity trigger to one of the instruments, until I play the internal sequencer, that sound will never sound louder than the lowest velocity trigger it was sent.

some feature requests:
- would be nice to still apply shuffle when sequenced from external MIDI clock
- PGM change over MIDI doesn't seem to change patterns (may have been my sequencer)

lastly I would love to see the github code be the source of truth for the source for nava. I'm a software developer with some free time and would contribute to help fix these issues.
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Re: Official Nava BUGS list

Postby angusmack » Dec 12th, '17, 22:40

I was just about to post on the GitHub thread about this.

I'd also like to see the latest code pushed to GitHub so we can fix the bugs and submit pull requests.

I guess there is a chance of code forking and different versions appearing but if the master branch was controlled by e-liktronik then I don't see any issues.

Hopefully we can use the active community here to progress the firmware and help the designer deliver the best product possible.

Cheers
Angus
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Re: Official Nava BUGS list

Postby FlavioB » Dec 24th, '17, 14:59

Hi all.
What's the latest firmware today?
What's about Github?

Thanks,
F.
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Re: Official Nava BUGS list

Postby BastienL » Jan 30th, '18, 18:54

tb303 wrote:- sending MIDI triggers into the Nava seems to be completely unreliable. What I experience is, if I send a low velocity trigger to one of the instruments, until I play the internal sequencer, that sound will never sound louder than the lowest velocity trigger it was sent.


I experience the same issue and even worse because the drum voices fades out until they cannot be heard anymore except LT and HC. Starting the internal seq with a pattern makes the sound come again, but it then fades again. Thought it was a problem coming from the Nava I was repairing, but I tried on mine with the same setup (1.024 and accent boards), and I've got the same issue (sounds fades out except LT and HC). I reworked both accent boards pair, swapped them, but still the same issue, so I'm wondering if the two Nava are at fault or if it may come from the firmware, there's not a lot of feedback on the update+upgrade yet.
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Re: Official Nava BUGS list

Postby mex » Feb 8th, '18, 07:20

I got the bare PCB at home, now the question is, should i bother on replacing the accent circuitry or not.

Right now id rather not, it seems there is a lot of buggy behaviour still around, and i would just a guess, estimate just 10 people from the forums did built it on their own, rest is still happily living without it and without bugs, so we have in my opinion a more then 30% chance that the MUX boards dont work the way they should.


Correct me and advise me if i am wrong, should i begin building it or not.

Ah that makes me think, if i socketed the original MUX Ics, I think i will built it and simply try the replacement, if not id rather not start clipping those ICs.

Thanks for advice.
cheers seb
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Re: Official Nava BUGS list

Postby serum114 » Feb 10th, '18, 22:04

mex wrote:I got the bare PCB at home, now the question is, should i bother on replacing the accent circuitry or not.

Right now id rather not, it seems there is a lot of buggy behaviour still around, and i would just a guess, estimate just 10 people from the forums did built it on their own, rest is still happily living without it and without bugs, so we have in my opinion a more then 30% chance that the MUX boards dont work the way they should.


Correct me and advise me if i am wrong, should i begin building it or not.

Ah that makes me think, if i socketed the original MUX Ics, I think i will built it and simply try the replacement, if not id rather not start clipping those ICs.

Thanks for advice.
cheers seb


build without mux, get your nava running then try the mux. To desolder isn't hard. The range of faults weve all been experiencing could lead you down a long and windy road fault finding and far as i have seen E-lictronic have the only working pair. What version board have you got?
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Re: Official Nava BUGS list

Postby zabox » May 21st, '18, 00:38

Probably belongs in here, but i didn't want to flood the tread: Bugs and suggestions
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Re: Official Nava BUGS list

Postby tb303 » Jul 2nd, '18, 18:54

BastienL wrote:I experience the same issue and even worse because the drum voices fades out until they cannot be heard anymore except LT and HC. Starting the internal seq with a pattern makes the sound come again, but it then fades again. Thought it was a problem coming from the Nava I was repairing, but I tried on mine with the same setup (1.024 and accent boards), and I've got the same issue (sounds fades out except LT and HC). I reworked both accent boards pair, swapped them, but still the same issue, so I'm wondering if the two Nava are at fault or if it may come from the firmware, there's not a lot of feedback on the update+upgrade yet.


I had this experience (sounds fading out and not returning when sending MIDI triggers, only returning when internal sequencer plays) on v1.024. It was mostly fixed in v1.025.
viewtopic.php?f=25&t=864

I haven't tried newer than v1.025, though I'm about to because today I realized when playing from internal sequencer on v1.025, there is a very noticeable delay when switching between pattern write & mute modes. Based on the changelog it looks like that might be fixed in later firmware versions.

EDIT: nope, tried v1.027, the lag is very noticeable when switching between pattern write and mute.
Last edited by tb303 on Jul 3rd, '18, 02:33, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: Official Nava BUGS list

Postby druu » Jul 2nd, '18, 22:06

Everyone should treat 1.026 as version 1.0, as in, the first functional firmware.
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Re: Official Nava BUGS list

Postby tb303 » Jul 3rd, '18, 02:33

druu wrote:Everyone should treat 1.026 as version 1.0, as in, the first functional firmware.


v1.027 has a pretty glaring issue, the internal sequencer stutters when switching between pattern play/edit, and mute mode, while internal sequencer is playing.
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