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Re: Unoffical Firmware Available

Postby rv0 » Mar 2nd, '19, 12:23

gihaume wrote:Damn, the TAP feature is so nice !

the latest one that "never misses a trigger" ?
good to hear
I haven't had time to enjoy it much, the Yocto isn't in my studio at the moment :)

gihaume wrote:Now I would like to send the pattern notes to the MIDI output to record it in another sequencer... any thoughts about this ?


quite easy to do, in fact, I already did that last year: made the 4 last "instruments" (=trigger & nc) output midi to trigger the first 4 samples of my Volca Sample.. Used this in a live set even, worked out great.

the existing midi note input setting from Expander mode could be re-used, and so could the midi channel
however, there has to be a way to "disable" and "enable" midi note output, as I can imagine it is unwanted in some midi setups. any suggestions?

also, I don't bother with accent output, we need to agree upon a "normal" and "accented" midi velocity value. Just making this up: 85 and 110 would work great, again, any suggestions?
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Re: Unoffical Firmware Available

Postby gihaume » Mar 2nd, '19, 12:44

I tried the last combined one yes.

What about making the last unused NC mode an user config mode where each button + led is an option such as MIDI notes output enabled or disabled ?

Otherwise if we think there would only be MIDI Notes output as option to be added in the future we could just have it on the Roll/End buttons in Expander mode.

EDIT: About double triggers from TAP input, shouldn't you just make the next step to be not triggered on the first time when it was just added ?
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Re: Unoffical Firmware Available

Postby gihaume » Mar 2nd, '19, 19:06

Would it be possible to have the pattern and bank selection to be saved ? I really like to be able to go on where I was when I had shut down the studio.

Did you ever consider Pattern change from MIDI Program Change ?
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Re: Unoffical Firmware Available

Postby helectromagneticus » Mar 2nd, '19, 20:03

This is a bit off-topic, but an "undocumented" feature of the Yocto is to trigger the global accent when receiving a MIDI note with velocity greater than or equal to 100 in expander mode. This isn't mentioned in the official manual, but it's now on the GitHub manual.

There's some good ideas being mentioned here! The MIDI note out thing could work, but how would the user know which channel the notes are sent to? The Yocto's interface limits what can be done somewhat.
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Re: Unoffical Firmware Available

Postby gihaume » Mar 2nd, '19, 20:55

In Expander mode the accent is per voice and not common/global.

About the global accent, it could be nice to be able to still trigger it as in fact it can already be assigned to a note.

About the MIDI output channel, it could be the same as the one selected in Expander mode. If a Config mode is prefered, you could hold a button like Mute/Reset or other then press one of the 16 step keys.
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Re: Unoffical Firmware Available

Postby FlavioB » Mar 2nd, '19, 21:11

Sorry to bump in here... but what about individual (per instrument) accent? Is this feasible?
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Re: Unoffical Firmware Available

Postby gihaume » Mar 2nd, '19, 21:34

As it works like this in Expander mode, for sure it is possible to do it. Now it may be more difficult regarding UI.
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Re: Unoffical Firmware Available

Postby rv0 » Mar 3rd, '19, 11:29

gihaume wrote:EDIT: About double triggers from TAP input, shouldn't you just make the next step to be not triggered on the first time when it was just added ?

right that was what the code was doing, but for some reason that resulted in notes not sounding, so the easy fix was to allow double triggers for now

gihaume wrote:Would it be possible to have the pattern and bank selection to be saved ? I really like to be able to go on where I was when I had shut down the studio.

I guess so, there's loads of free memory

gihaume wrote:Did you ever consider Pattern change from MIDI Program Change ?


haven't needed such a thing, but sure is possible, combining it with bank select message to allow all 256 patterns to be addressed

helectromagneticus wrote:There's some good ideas being mentioned here! The MIDI note out thing could work, but how would the user know which channel the notes are sent to? The Yocto's interface limits what can be done somewhat.

gihaume wrote:About the MIDI output channel, it could be the same as the one selected in Expander mode. If a Config mode is prefered, you could hold a button like Mute/Reset or other then press one of the 16 step keys.

correct, the easy approach would be to re-use what is set in expander mode as channel, as it is saved in settings already

But:
gihaume wrote:What about making the last unused NC mode an user config mode where each button + led is an option such as MIDI notes output enabled or disabled ?

If you talking about the empty space between INIT and CLEAR, I've been thinking about using this for a Midi out settings page. Because what I did with the volca sample was sending out on 4 midi channels, and being able to send _any_ note on _any_ channel would be an awesome feature. The yocto could "midi learn" by listening to external midi data while holding a key. And the mute button could disable midi note output.

FlavioB wrote:Sorry to bump in here... but what about individual (per instrument) accent? Is this feasible?
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gihaume wrote:As it works like this in Expander mode, for sure it is possible to do it. Now it may be more difficult regarding UI.

the accent in expander mode will accent everything
individual accent is impossible without significant hardware changes, the 808 is not designed like this
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Re: Unoffical Firmware Available

Postby FlavioB » Mar 3rd, '19, 11:38

rv0 wrote:individual accent is impossible without significant hardware changes, the 808 is not designed like this

Thanks rv0 - I somehow already heard about this in the past, thanks for confirming.
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Re: Unoffical Firmware Available

Postby gihaume » Mar 3rd, '19, 14:05

Nice outputs !

My Yocto in Expander mode without any hardware change and from day 1 has individual accents depending on the velocity it receives.
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